In 1965, Gibson made the red one I use now, and a black one, which was the first black 335 they ever made.
I'd gone through periods where I didn't work live performances for probably seven or eight months at a time.
Alan's publishing company was in the Brill Building, and of course, the Brill Building was where all the songwriters hung out because that's where all the publishers were.
Guys like Otis Blackwell and Bobby Darin, and all the guys who were writing songs for Elvis at the time, just hanging around, writing songs, talking about music.
When I came back to California in the early '60s I was hanging out with Jimmy Bowen, Phil Spector, and I wanted to be a record producer and work with other artists.
What I really remember is that people camped out everywhere, and the fact everybody expected it might turn into a big nightmare with all sorts of hassles because back in those days everybody was smoking pot and taking acid.
One thing will lead to another and somebody will come up with a riff or a line or something we build from.
I think after 1970 or so, after I sold Soul City, I took off for awhile and didn't do too many gigs.