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When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.

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Actually, as that first association continued, we got a little more legitimate. In those days, they asked Boy Scout troops to act as ushers during the football games. So we signed up and I went to many games in full Boy Scout uniform as an usher.

I got called back into the Navy during the Korean War.

The only kind of movement you could make in the Navy was to be a platoon leader or one of those kinds of things as you got more senior in your Navy career.

And then, when I went into the Navy, there was no choice. You took about half of the hours during your naval training as naval courses and the other half were engineering.

I was always good at math and science and physics.

I stayed in the Navy until July of 1946.

Then I came back and restarted at the UW that fall.

I didn't take very much part in activities on campus at that time.

I think I finally chose the graduate degree in engineering primarily because it only took one year and law school took three years, and I felt the pressure of being a little behind - although I was just 22.

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When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.

When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.

When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.

When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.

When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.

When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.

When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.

When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.

When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.

When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.

When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.

When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.

When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.

When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.

When it came time to go to the University, it was during the war.